About 2 weeks ago, while checking out the portfolio of a random web design firm, I ran across the website of an organization that was offering a free DVD which they claimed provided “proof” that evolution is wrong and that creationism is right. Unable to resist, I quickly surrendered my email and mailing address, and within 2 weeks (wow, what service!) I received my free DVD. Brimming over with excitement, I quickly abandoned my evening with family and popped it in the DVD player. I cranked the speakers to 11, grabbed a stiff glass of Diet Coke (on the rocks), and curled into my oversized leather couch, my eyes and ears prepared for outstanding revelations.
It turned out, to my immediate dismay, that this DVD was of a lecture series delivered by Kent Hovind, better known as “Dr. Dino.” For those who are familiar with Hovind’s “arguments,” I need say little more. For those who are unfamiliar, imagine arguing with someone whose main line of debate is mischaracterizations, over-generalizations, and deflection through cheesy jokes, insults, and terrible clip-art-ridden power-point shows. Enough said.
As I watched and listened to the 129 minutes of Mr. Hovind’s lecture, some things became immediately clear:
1.) He offered no actual “scientific” proof for his claims, even though the claim of the video was exactly this.
2.) The entire discussion was based upon an attempt to characterize cosmological and biological theories of evolution as atheistic, humanistic propaganda.
3.) The main lines of his arguments revolved around trying to make evolutionists look foolish. However, in doing so, he did not interact with any critical, scholarly material, but rather based his discussion upon popular notions of evolutionary theory, outdated 2nd grade biology textbooks, and other insignificant sources.
4.) Similar to no. 1, at no time did Hovan offer a critical theory that would explain an alternative perspective for origins. Basically, his argument boiled down to, “The KJV Bible says this, I have to interpret it according certain hermeneutical paradigms, and that’s the end of the story.”
ANYWAY...I do not wish to devote this post to all of the horrible misrepresentations, inaccuracies, etc. of Hovind’s lectures, nor of his methodology. Rather, I would like to focus on a very interesting comment that he made. Noting this comment, I would like to revisit some of the considerations I pursued in my previous post on Materialist Conceptions of Origins, as well as tie in some of the thinking I have been doing in regard to considerations of human language in speaking about the divine. So without further ado....
Let me set the stage: Hovind was relating a story of a time when he conversed with a Berkeley professor during a plane ride. In this conversation, Hovind questioned the professor on several issues relating to evolution, and boastingly related that the professor was unable to sufficiently answer the questions. One question in particular grabbed my attention. Hovind questioned the professor as to the origin of the universe. Not surprisingly, the professor suggested that all matter and energy in the universe could be reduced, chronologically, to a singularity, an infinitely small and dense point. Undeterred, Hovind pressed further and asked, “So where did the singularity [universe] come from?” Unable to respond, Hovind offered that all matter and energy [universe] came from God in precisely the way that the book of Genesis relates (according to his interpretive paradigm of this passage, that is).
I would like to focus on this phrase, “Where did the universe come from?” According to Hovind, the fact that the big bang cosmologist cannot successfully answer this question overturns big bang cosmology, or, at the very least, requires that the big bang adherent posit the eternal existence of the universe, which would, of course, suggest a thoroughgoing materialist cosmology. Furthermore, Hovind asserts that because the universe has to come from “somewhere,” the only reasonable answer can be that it came “from God.”
Although he would vehemently deny it, I would assert that Hovind’s offering succombs to exactly the same criticism (of materialism), at least if one outlines his cosmology on the basis of his line of questioning outline above.
Let’s examine his question:
“Where did the universe come from?”
Although this seems to be a reasonably straightforward question, the linguistic structuring of this question mitigates against it technically adhering to a Christian cosmology.
But first, consider this: Christians affirm the ex nihilo, “out of nothingness,” origin of all that exists and which is "other than" God. In light of this, a Christian cosmology specifically denies any conception that the universe is uncreated and eternal (per Aristotle and most cosmological assumptions until the last 200 years). The universe did not exist as chaos that was organized by God, nor was it a soup of eternally existing matter that was arranged in particular structures. The “nothingness” out of which creation was created does not have ontological existence, as if it is simply “empty space” (for “space” is not really “empty”). Additionally, a Christian cosmology rejects that creation is merely an emanation of the being of God. Rather, the universe really is “other” than God, even though its existence and preservation is dependent upon God.
Now, back to the question:
“Where did the universe come from?”
If we affirm a Christian cosmology of creation ex nihilo, this question is perspicuously contradictory. Consider the word “where.” By utilizing the normal understanding of the word “where,” one is referring to a spatial reality. For example, if I ask, “Where is the pencil,” one’s answer will have a proximal value as its referential, i.e., "the pencil is on the desk." Even if one responds with an admission of ignorance (“I don’t know where the pencil is"), this is still a proximally qualified answer, for one is not denying the existence of the pencil in its location, but rather merely knowledge of what this location might be. And even a denial of the existence of the pencil is proximally qualified, for the "not-anywhere-ness" of the pencil is necessarily referential to the "where-ness" of that context in which the pencil does not exist.
If we apply these considerations to the question posed by Hovind, we see how a materialist conception of the origins of the universe comes into play. After all, if we affirm that the universe (matter and energy) came “from somewhere,” we must posit the existence of another reality that is commensurate with the nature of the universe wherein it is appropriate that the latter should come from the former. In that referring to this reality as “God” would violate the Christian cosmological principle of creation ex nihilo, one is merely moving the origin of the universe back to another material reality from which the known universe originated.
Let me get at this another way. If one says that the universe came “from God,” one is speaking on the level of space/time. As already noted, in order to determine the “whereness” and “fromness” of a particular reality (whether it be a pencil, a refrigerator, an abstract thought, or even a non-existent object [which is categorically impossible, linguistically]), one must appeal to the spatial/temporal context in which these realities occur. But if we say that creation came “from God,” we are doing the unthinkable. By delineating the origin and mechanism of creation on the basis of spatial referents (“where,” “from”), we are expanding the spatial/temporal context of creation upon the divine and eternal nature of God. Therefore, in saying this very simple phrase, "the universe came from God," we are philosophically operating under the assumption that not only are the parameters of space/time the proper paradigm through which to describe the origin and mechanism of God’s relationship to the creation, but we are actually positing the existence of these paradigms over and against the existence of God, requiring that the infinite and eternal God operate within these parameters (which conclusion, obviously, negates the actuality of God’s infinitude and eternality).
With these considerations in mind, I realize that very few people–-and probably no one, actually—when they respond to the question, “Where did the universe come from” with the answer, “God,” consciously affirm the conclusions I have outlined above. However, this is not my point. What I am getting at is the way in which our language lies to us, often without anyone actually realizing it, revealing unconscious philosophical presuppositions that, if explicitly stated, we would vehemently eschew. As with Hovind, he obviously detests a “naturalistic” explanation of the origin of the universe. However, given the language which he deploys, and coupled with his insistence upon the mechanisms of creation mentioned in Genesis (which are themselves naturalistic), his conclusions are hardly different in consequence from those which he rejects (other than being unrelated to any of the naturalistic evidence that is available).
Conclusion
It is difficult to conclude this kind of examination, for the issue—contrary to what human nature desires—cannot be definitively resolved. Regardless of what mechanisms we use to describe the origins of the universe, the earth, or ourselves, our language will consistently force us into speaking in terms of spatiality/temporality, and our speech will be riddled with contingent, causally demarcated words and phrases. Therefore, we must always use caution in how we utilize language about God and the relationship between the divine being and that which is created and “other.”
Specifically, I would propose that the question, “Where did the universe come from,” is unanswerable, both for the big bang cosmologist and the creationist. Human language is simply incapable of describing creation ex nihilo in a propositional way that will avoid running aground
on the rocks of materialism that I have described above.
Should we then simply leave off talking about "origins" completely? No, I do not suggest that we should. Rather, we should simply hold to faith-affirmation of the power and creativity of the divine Creator. While this runs contrary to the desire of human nature to identify a material source and cause for creation, mystery is better than blasphemy. Moreover, we should honestly and actively engage our senses in the universe in which we live. If we conclude that evolutionary theory best describes the way in which our universe developed, let us rejoice in it. As God’s creative activity in the universe cannot be reduced or located within any particular set of causal mechanisms, the field is wide open and all bets are off as to "how" the creative work of God can be displayed (as if the conclusion were up to us to begin with) within the universe in which we live.
It turned out, to my immediate dismay, that this DVD was of a lecture series delivered by Kent Hovind, better known as “Dr. Dino.” For those who are familiar with Hovind’s “arguments,” I need say little more. For those who are unfamiliar, imagine arguing with someone whose main line of debate is mischaracterizations, over-generalizations, and deflection through cheesy jokes, insults, and terrible clip-art-ridden power-point shows. Enough said.
As I watched and listened to the 129 minutes of Mr. Hovind’s lecture, some things became immediately clear:
1.) He offered no actual “scientific” proof for his claims, even though the claim of the video was exactly this.
2.) The entire discussion was based upon an attempt to characterize cosmological and biological theories of evolution as atheistic, humanistic propaganda.
3.) The main lines of his arguments revolved around trying to make evolutionists look foolish. However, in doing so, he did not interact with any critical, scholarly material, but rather based his discussion upon popular notions of evolutionary theory, outdated 2nd grade biology textbooks, and other insignificant sources.
4.) Similar to no. 1, at no time did Hovan offer a critical theory that would explain an alternative perspective for origins. Basically, his argument boiled down to, “The KJV Bible says this, I have to interpret it according certain hermeneutical paradigms, and that’s the end of the story.”
ANYWAY...I do not wish to devote this post to all of the horrible misrepresentations, inaccuracies, etc. of Hovind’s lectures, nor of his methodology. Rather, I would like to focus on a very interesting comment that he made. Noting this comment, I would like to revisit some of the considerations I pursued in my previous post on Materialist Conceptions of Origins, as well as tie in some of the thinking I have been doing in regard to considerations of human language in speaking about the divine. So without further ado....
Let me set the stage: Hovind was relating a story of a time when he conversed with a Berkeley professor during a plane ride. In this conversation, Hovind questioned the professor on several issues relating to evolution, and boastingly related that the professor was unable to sufficiently answer the questions. One question in particular grabbed my attention. Hovind questioned the professor as to the origin of the universe. Not surprisingly, the professor suggested that all matter and energy in the universe could be reduced, chronologically, to a singularity, an infinitely small and dense point. Undeterred, Hovind pressed further and asked, “So where did the singularity [universe] come from?” Unable to respond, Hovind offered that all matter and energy [universe] came from God in precisely the way that the book of Genesis relates (according to his interpretive paradigm of this passage, that is).
I would like to focus on this phrase, “Where did the universe come from?” According to Hovind, the fact that the big bang cosmologist cannot successfully answer this question overturns big bang cosmology, or, at the very least, requires that the big bang adherent posit the eternal existence of the universe, which would, of course, suggest a thoroughgoing materialist cosmology. Furthermore, Hovind asserts that because the universe has to come from “somewhere,” the only reasonable answer can be that it came “from God.”
Although he would vehemently deny it, I would assert that Hovind’s offering succombs to exactly the same criticism (of materialism), at least if one outlines his cosmology on the basis of his line of questioning outline above.
Let’s examine his question:
“Where did the universe come from?”
Although this seems to be a reasonably straightforward question, the linguistic structuring of this question mitigates against it technically adhering to a Christian cosmology.
But first, consider this: Christians affirm the ex nihilo, “out of nothingness,” origin of all that exists and which is "other than" God. In light of this, a Christian cosmology specifically denies any conception that the universe is uncreated and eternal (per Aristotle and most cosmological assumptions until the last 200 years). The universe did not exist as chaos that was organized by God, nor was it a soup of eternally existing matter that was arranged in particular structures. The “nothingness” out of which creation was created does not have ontological existence, as if it is simply “empty space” (for “space” is not really “empty”). Additionally, a Christian cosmology rejects that creation is merely an emanation of the being of God. Rather, the universe really is “other” than God, even though its existence and preservation is dependent upon God.
Now, back to the question:
“Where did the universe come from?”
If we affirm a Christian cosmology of creation ex nihilo, this question is perspicuously contradictory. Consider the word “where.” By utilizing the normal understanding of the word “where,” one is referring to a spatial reality. For example, if I ask, “Where is the pencil,” one’s answer will have a proximal value as its referential, i.e., "the pencil is on the desk." Even if one responds with an admission of ignorance (“I don’t know where the pencil is"), this is still a proximally qualified answer, for one is not denying the existence of the pencil in its location, but rather merely knowledge of what this location might be. And even a denial of the existence of the pencil is proximally qualified, for the "not-anywhere-ness" of the pencil is necessarily referential to the "where-ness" of that context in which the pencil does not exist.
If we apply these considerations to the question posed by Hovind, we see how a materialist conception of the origins of the universe comes into play. After all, if we affirm that the universe (matter and energy) came “from somewhere,” we must posit the existence of another reality that is commensurate with the nature of the universe wherein it is appropriate that the latter should come from the former. In that referring to this reality as “God” would violate the Christian cosmological principle of creation ex nihilo, one is merely moving the origin of the universe back to another material reality from which the known universe originated.
Let me get at this another way. If one says that the universe came “from God,” one is speaking on the level of space/time. As already noted, in order to determine the “whereness” and “fromness” of a particular reality (whether it be a pencil, a refrigerator, an abstract thought, or even a non-existent object [which is categorically impossible, linguistically]), one must appeal to the spatial/temporal context in which these realities occur. But if we say that creation came “from God,” we are doing the unthinkable. By delineating the origin and mechanism of creation on the basis of spatial referents (“where,” “from”), we are expanding the spatial/temporal context of creation upon the divine and eternal nature of God. Therefore, in saying this very simple phrase, "the universe came from God," we are philosophically operating under the assumption that not only are the parameters of space/time the proper paradigm through which to describe the origin and mechanism of God’s relationship to the creation, but we are actually positing the existence of these paradigms over and against the existence of God, requiring that the infinite and eternal God operate within these parameters (which conclusion, obviously, negates the actuality of God’s infinitude and eternality).
With these considerations in mind, I realize that very few people–-and probably no one, actually—when they respond to the question, “Where did the universe come from” with the answer, “God,” consciously affirm the conclusions I have outlined above. However, this is not my point. What I am getting at is the way in which our language lies to us, often without anyone actually realizing it, revealing unconscious philosophical presuppositions that, if explicitly stated, we would vehemently eschew. As with Hovind, he obviously detests a “naturalistic” explanation of the origin of the universe. However, given the language which he deploys, and coupled with his insistence upon the mechanisms of creation mentioned in Genesis (which are themselves naturalistic), his conclusions are hardly different in consequence from those which he rejects (other than being unrelated to any of the naturalistic evidence that is available).
Conclusion
It is difficult to conclude this kind of examination, for the issue—contrary to what human nature desires—cannot be definitively resolved. Regardless of what mechanisms we use to describe the origins of the universe, the earth, or ourselves, our language will consistently force us into speaking in terms of spatiality/temporality, and our speech will be riddled with contingent, causally demarcated words and phrases. Therefore, we must always use caution in how we utilize language about God and the relationship between the divine being and that which is created and “other.”
Specifically, I would propose that the question, “Where did the universe come from,” is unanswerable, both for the big bang cosmologist and the creationist. Human language is simply incapable of describing creation ex nihilo in a propositional way that will avoid running aground
on the rocks of materialism that I have described above.
Should we then simply leave off talking about "origins" completely? No, I do not suggest that we should. Rather, we should simply hold to faith-affirmation of the power and creativity of the divine Creator. While this runs contrary to the desire of human nature to identify a material source and cause for creation, mystery is better than blasphemy. Moreover, we should honestly and actively engage our senses in the universe in which we live. If we conclude that evolutionary theory best describes the way in which our universe developed, let us rejoice in it. As God’s creative activity in the universe cannot be reduced or located within any particular set of causal mechanisms, the field is wide open and all bets are off as to "how" the creative work of God can be displayed (as if the conclusion were up to us to begin with) within the universe in which we live.
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"Rather, we should simply hold to faith-affirmation of the power and creativity of the divine Creator.. . . mystery is better than blasphemy.
I note with comfort there is no sin in asking of God ever more difficult questions. Folks like Hovind live in fear of questions they can't answer so don't ask them and in the process invalidate themselves. The greatest moment in mental inquiry in an incurably curious person, is when "what I need to know" reaches equilibrium with "what I want to know." It is mystery that makes the devine, devine. Now that is something I need to know.
I wonder, is it the deficiency of language or is it of proper perspective or understanding or whatever of the infinite?
Second, if language and human understanding are too limited, how do we keep from slipping into a kind of Kantian dualism, then eventually saying the Infinite other is unattainable - to the next step of saying we can really know nothing with any sort of certainty about God?
I certainly can go along with much of your thinking here, but I'm afraid to be too skeptical of language. While I understand that we are in a postmodern context, I think there are things in postmodern presuppositions that are dangerous. In fact, too much skepticism in a postmodern sense is really just the outcome of this guy Hovind's modernism. It is the next logical step. He is using rhetoric in such a dishonest manner that people are almost driven to proclaim the ascendancy of rhetoric over dialectic. I just don't buy into the idea that language is so limited that ideas about God cannot be communicated accurately (and to be fair, I'm not pinning that on you, dirty Methodist). This is not to say that we must do so with humility and a willingness to be corrected.
So, I wonder, how do the limits of human language as you understand them affect Scripture and Divine revelation?
Granted, the Word was spoken in a context, this is the nature of incarnation, but does context distort necessarily? Or how do those limits affect us?
Oh yeah, what's wrong with saying God spoke and it was? Isn't it buying into the modernist mindset that makes us think we need to understand the mechanics of that? I guess that would be the answer to, "How did the universe come into being?"
mofast-
I wonder, is it the deficiency of language or is it of proper perspective or understanding or whatever of the infinite?
To begin, I must remind that when I speak of "deficiency" of human language, I am speaking of it in the precise context of making propositional, truth-encapsulating statements. Once this major obstacle is shooed away, I think it is perfectly acceptable to speak of the the "sufficiency" of human language, if taken the right (lol!) way. So then, I think it is entirely possible that human language can express the divine; however, I am asserting that this does not happen on the level of propositionality that most would hope, assume or claim.
Second, if language and human understanding are too limited, how do we keep from slipping into a kind of Kantian dualism, then eventually saying the Infinite other is unattainable - to the next step of saying we can really know nothing with any sort of certainty about God?
I think, in a sense, there is a level on which the Infinite "other" is unattainable. To attain to this infinite other would be to reduce infinitude to the level of finitude, thus self-negating the very essence of infinity. In this sense, what would we really have gained but ourselves? (Which is somewhat similar to the line Feurbach takes).
THis, IMO, is why the Incarnation is such an essential theological doctrine. In the Incarnation, the infinite becomes finite, the uncreated becomes created so that we might have a taste of the Godhead. Yet, this taste, this revelation is not actually "other" than us, for the "other" has become humanity, has revealed divinity through creaturliness. However, since this is how revelation comes, it would appear to me that the kind of "knowledge" of God which we desire (the categorical and propositional) is fundamentally excluded, for we have to speak of divinity through the lens of helpless infant, a social outcast, and a bloody, shameful cross.
I certainly can go along with much of your thinking here, but I'm afraid to be too skeptical of language.
This is where I would get antagonistic and question from where "skepticism" derives its meaning. After all, what would appear skeptical to Don Quixote would be the avoidance of insanity to another.
While I understand that we are in a postmodern context, I think there are things in postmodern presuppositions that are dangerous.
Yes, as with all methodologies and world-views.
In fact, too much skepticism in a postmodern sense is really just the outcome of this guy Hovind's modernism. It is the next logical step. He is using rhetoric in such a dishonest manner that people are almost driven to proclaim the ascendancy of rhetoric over dialectic.
You are right. Instead of speaking honestly about the issues at hand, Hovind's approach is based upon antithesis to evolutionary theory. One would have to question why, if he believes it to be so depraved and worthless, he bothers to spend so much time refuting it. To me, it's kind of like the doctrine of inerrancy--making such strong cases about it really requires deliberate attempts at refutation of textual/historical criticism. Yet in a reciprocal way, the very doctrine fuels the "evil" it is attempting to guard against.
I just don't buy into the idea that language is so limited that ideas about God cannot be communicated accurately (and to be fair, I'm not pinning that on you, dirty Methodist). This is not to say that we must do so with humility and a willingness to be corrected.
I still come back to the crux of the issue: how does one determine if language has, in fact, communicated something "accurately" about the divine?
So, I wonder, how do the limits of human language as you understand them affect Scripture and Divine revelation?
Granted, the Word was spoken in a context, this is the nature of incarnation, but does context distort necessarily? Or how do those limits affect us?
Context shapes meaning, necessarily. As far as Scripture is concerned, I think this approach would bring a lot of epistemic humility to biblical study and exposition, for people would be invited into interaction with the contexts at play within the texts, being challenged to critically and creatively converse with them, rather than just laying down principles by fiat because "this is what the Scriptures say." While "X" may certainly be what the Scriptures "say," meaning is not encapsulated simply in repeating the words, nor in assuming that their meanings are directly translatable to the contexts in which we wrestle, seek and encounter God in Christ.
Oh yeah, what's wrong with saying God spoke and it was? Isn't it buying into the modernist mindset that makes us think we need to understand the mechanics of that? I guess that would be the answer to, "How did the universe come into being?"
I'm okay with saying that, as long as it is not followed by attempts at locating the outworking of GOd's "voice" in the mechanics of creation. That is why I love the metaphor of creation being "spoken" into existence, for it is such a (logically) absurd way to describe it, that within the very act of absurdity a profound and entirely unquantifiable message is communicated.
I think it is entirely possible that human language can express the divine; however, I am asserting that this does not happen on the level of propositionality that most would hope, assume or claim.
Ok, I'm with you there.
In the Incarnation, the infinite becomes finite, the uncreated becomes created so that we might have a taste of the Godhead.
And here too. The incarnation is key, and as we've talked before about atonement with a focus on penal substitution tends to undervalue or at least not pay as much attention to the Incarnation - how God is made known in his most complete revelation.
I still come back to the crux of the issue: how does one determine if language has, in fact, communicated something "accurately" about the divine?
That one's easy, if I agree with it, of course.
I think I understand better where you are coming from. Very Wesleyan, I believe.
I note also, a dislike for hermeneutics of control and power. For example, why can't we just let the 'God spoke and it was' just stand as it is? Why do we need to make attempts at locating the outworking of GOd's "voice" in the mechanics of creation.? Perhaps it is something that is intrinsic to us as humans to seek to understand, to seek the Divine, to reach beyond - because we were created in God's image and for God's pleasure. And as that got twisted we ended up with videos by Hovind.
mofast--
I think I understand better where you are coming from. Very Wesleyan, I believe.
No longer a dirty Methodist? Ahh...
I note also, a dislike for hermeneutics of control and power.
Yes, this is a big part of it. Part of the absolutizing nature of human language is that we subconsciously believe that that the values we apply to our language are somehow transcendent of the things themselves. For all of our "advancement," we haven't moved one iota past Platonism.
For example, why can't we just let the 'God spoke and it was' just stand as it is? Why do we need to make attempts at locating the outworking of GOd's "voice" in the mechanics of creation.? Perhaps it is something that is intrinsic to us as humans to seek to understand, to seek the Divine, to reach beyond - because we were created in God's image and for God's pleasure. And as that got twisted we ended up with videos by Hovind.
Maybe this is a part of the definition of sin, that we refuse to allow mystery in epistemology.
For it was not into my ear you whispered, but into my heart. It was not my lips you kissed, but my soul.
Is anyone there?
Wow- you're deep. Hope all is well with you and yours...
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